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		<title>Hamas&#8217; Dilemma</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hussein Ibish spoke with Steve Spiegel about how regional dynamics are impacting Palestinian reconciliation efforts amid reports that Hamas is considering joining the PLO. To listen to the audio, click here.&#160;&#160; Below is a full transcript.&#38;nbsp...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hussein Ibish spoke with Steve Spiegel about how regional dynamics are impacting Palestinian reconciliation efforts amid reports that Hamas is considering joining the PLO. To listen to the audio, <a href="http://www.israelpolicyforum.org/interview/hussein-ibish-hamas-dilemma" >click here.</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; Below is a full transcript.&nbsp;</p><p><strong>SUMMARY POINTS</strong></p> <ul><li>Hamas is being forced to adjust its longstanding ties to Syria and Iran as the region is increasingly aligning along sectarian lines.</li><li>Fatah is also under pressure as Muslim Brotherhood movements are gaining influence throughout the Arab world.</li><li>There is significant tension within Hamas between the external leadership and internal leadership.</li><li>Reports of an Interim Leadership Framework leading to Hamas and others joining the PLO is likely an effort to show the Palestinian public that efforts toward unity are being made—but it would be very difficult for Hamas politically to become a part of PLO and maintain its posture as a resistance movement. </li><li>Mahmoud Abbas’ meeting with Palestinian prisoners released in the Gilad Shalit deal is also intended to bolster domestic political support. Abu Maze and others within the PA and Fatah have come to the conclusion that there is nothing they can do or say that will make headway with this Israeli government. &nbsp;</li><li>Hamas’ hopes that the Muslim Brotherhood will not only influence but rule politics in the Arab world are far-fetched.</li><li>The United States remains the only viable broker for a peace agreement that can produce what the Palestinians need—and independent state and an end to the occupation.&nbsp; This is a fundamental reality.&nbsp; The Palestinians cannot afford a long-term crisis with the United States. &nbsp;</li></ul> <p><strong>What is going on among the Palestinians between Hamas and Fatah? Is this a major change?&nbsp; What is happening? </strong></p> <p>Hamas has been forced to seriously readjust its regional role because it can no longer remain part of the Syrian-Iranian alliance of which it has been a core member for almost two decades.<strong>&nbsp; </strong>Its relationship with what is now essential seen, by most of the other Arab Sunni Islamists – and Sunni governments – in the Arab World, as a Shiite alliance led by Iran of entirely non-Sunni actors, mostly Shiites. Certainly this is a non-Sunni alliance and maybe in so many ways an anti-Sunni alliance. Now, Hamas ideologically is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood of Palestine, and it just couldn’t continue under these circumstances to rely on the old narrative of a culture of resistance versus a culture of accommodation. That narrative, which allowed it to uniquely be aligned with the Muslim Brotherhood movement on the one hand, and this sort of Shiite or quasi-Shiite Iranian alliance on the other, has broken down.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> <p>The region is realigning in my view very strongly along sectarian lines. This is most clear in Syria, where only non-Sunni actors now support the Assad regime, and almost all Sunni actors –including Turkey and the Arab Islamists and Arab governments – are opposed to the Assad regime. This put Hamas in an impossible situation vis a vis the headquarters of its politburo, its external political leadership – Khaled Meshaal and his colleagues – they really cannot stay in Syria in the long-run and they cannot rely on Iran as a principle patron or source of much of anything. &nbsp;So, they are literally and figuratively on the move.</p> <p>There’s also pressure on Fatah.&nbsp; There is real concern about the role of the new Egyptian government – as the Muslim Brotherhood gains a great deal of influence there … &nbsp;you can see the Muslim Brotherhood gaining ground not just through the elections but generally in Egypt and analogous in parties Tunisia and other places, so there is also a lot of pressure on Fatah.</p> <p>The Palestinian demand in terms of the Arab Spring was not for regime change but for unity. This is something that the groups have been working on for awhile.&nbsp; What they did earlier this year was agree to make an agreement. But what they found is that they couldn’t agree on a national unity government of technocrats or anything like that. Now they are talking about holding elections in May, and they claim they have formed committees to oversee those elections.</p> <p>There is new information that Hamas – and possibly Islamic Jihad and others – may try to join the PLO.&nbsp; Now this is very complex.&nbsp; And there even might be what is being called and “Interim Leadership Framework” of the PLO that could be a kind of a supra organizational committee including PLO leaders, Fatah leaders, Hamas and Islamic Jihad leaders, and maybe even others, which would probably be more for show than anything else. But again, responding to that call for unity.</p> <p>One final word on the question of unity: I think everyone agrees that Palestinian unity is important. Certainly all the Palestinians do. And, I think even the Israelis do. I mean everyone has complained about the division within the Palestinian national movement.&nbsp; The question is not whether the Palestinians should re-unify – whether that’s necessary or important for peace or for any constructive purpose – the question is: on whose terms is that re-unification going to come?&nbsp; That very much remains to be seen.</p> <p>So I can’t answer the question as to whether this is cosmetic or the beginning of a serious transformation. Insofar as Hamas has to realign itself with other actors: Turkey, Qatar, maybe Jordan, Egypt, etc., it is going to be dealing with a group of countries relying in fact on support of a group of countries with very different relationships to the regional status quo, to the United States, to Israel, than Syria and Iran did.&nbsp; It’s going to have to make some pretty big changes. The less they have to make changes, I think, the happier they’ll be.&nbsp; Different parts of the organization are more ready for change than others. But, they might have no choice but to make some very painful adjustments and you can see at least the cosmetics of that happening. Now how far it goes? Again, I think, in the end, the regional re-alignment will be the most influential factor in determining where all of the different Palestinian movements end up going.</p> <p><strong>Jordan, Egypt – even Qatar – are government that have contacts with Israel.&nbsp; How does Hamas become associates with these governments without making changes on their policy vis a vis Israel? Particularly when these countries want close relations with the United States? </strong></p> <p>I think the answer is they can’t.&nbsp; The question is, in a sense, do you decide to fully re-align and really embrace a transformed role within the region, sort of give up on your hardcore anti-status quo positions, and really reconsider attitudes not only to US but to Israel as well, which would make it possible perhaps for Hamas to join the PLO. &nbsp;If Hamas joined the PLO under the current circumstances that exist now, it would almost certainly mean agreeing to the PLO’s existing positions: the letter of mutual recognition that Chairman Arafat sent to Prime Minister Rabin in ‘93 recognizing the State of Israel, or at least not opposing that.&nbsp; I mean they wouldn’t necessarily have to issue a statement enforcing it, but they would be joining an organization for which that is a central pillar of its policy, and in effect committing to the Quartet conditions that they have resisted for so long.</p> <p>Now in a certain sense strategically in terms of having the kind of support: the headquarters, the material and financial support that they need, this is an easy choice to make, and is probably something that they would really want to do. On the other hand, there is a heavy political price to be doing that.</p> <p>Because insofar as Hamas has been presenting itself as the alternative natural leadership – the rival – potential national movement of the Palestinian people to the PLO and Fatah. They’ve had to do it by outbidding the nationalists on the struggle with Israel: on saying they will never recognize Israel, which they continue to maintain; that they think only in terms of a long term truce and not a peace agreement with Israel; that they continue at least in rhetoric if not in practice the use of armed struggle etc, etc, and have refused to accede to the Quartet conditions.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p> <p><strong>How could they do that so easily?</strong></p> <p>There is a big problem for them in doing it. &nbsp;In terms of recognizing Israel, they could get away with recognizing that the aim is a two-state solution.&nbsp; I don’t think they would actually have to issue a statement recognizing Israel. I think they would have to accept the principle of a two-state solution—basically what Netanyahu has done. Netanyahu has not recognized a Palestinian state but he’s recognized at his Bar Ilan University speech and many other occasions in the last couple of years the goal of a two-state solution. I think that would be sufficient. Certainly they would have to renounce violence, particularly terrorism and absolutely crucially the legitimacy of existing PLO agreements, particularly as members of the PLO they couldn’t really reject outstanding treaty commitments undertaken by the PLO.&nbsp;</p> <p>But here’s the political problem: Insofar as they have been trying to challenge the PLO as the national leadership for the Palestinians, they’ve had to do it from a position of outbidding them on a national strategy for independence, liberation, etc. They can’t really hope to get a majority of Palestinian support based on Muslim social conservatism. That’s just not going to work for them among the Palestinians. So it’s almost asking them to give up their brand.&nbsp; Then Palestinians would basically be confronted with two organizations: one Islamist social conservative, reactionary and with a bunch o social attitudes that I think are not shared by a majority of Palestinians; and the other a socially conservative but nationalist group– fighting for the same goals: a two-state solution through non-violent means and a state along Israel.&nbsp; I think they’d risk losing their brand.&nbsp; I don’t know how they recoup that if they went along with all of this. At the same time, how much of that brand of resistance they can keep if their main sponsors are countries like Qatar, turkey, Jordan and Egypt is very hard to understand.</p> <p>So I think their in a tricky spot. And I also think there are many different fissures within the Hamas movement, it breaks down along multiple axes of course personal, political regional, etc. The biggest is the division between the external and internal leadership.&nbsp; The external leadership has known for many months that it’s got to leave Syria it can’t maintain its relationship with Iran anymore, it has to look for a new home, new sponsors and a new profile—they have no choice. For them it’s not a matter of calculating costs. It’s a matter of existential necessity. The leadership in Gaza, I think, insofar as they are loyal to the external leadership would maybe go along with this because they see the primacy of that leadership.&nbsp; But the people who see themselves as independent Hamas leaders in Gaza, I think stand to lose a great deal. They are sitting pretty in Gaza. They don’t have the same kind of emergency crisis of even knowing where to physically be that the external leaders do. I think you can see a lot of tension between internal and external forces. Particularly the internal hardliner in Gaza Mahmoud Zahar, whose been subject to what ware called ‘severe disciplinary measures’ – I don’t know exactly what those are – but for criticizing the recognition by the external leadership of the authority of the PLO to negotiate with Israel and worse still the authority of the external leadership of the political bureau.&nbsp; He basically said here in May the leadership is here in Gaza and the people outside are just a part of that. So he kind of inverted what most people in Hamas see as the hierarchy.&nbsp; And that was considered unacceptable but I think it was a reflection of the tension of this kind of movement where the external leaders see an urgent necessity to adjust themselves to the political reality and the internal leaders only pay the price. It is almost like a tab is being run up by the external leaders on the credit card of the internal leaders, so to speak.</p> <p><strong>Meanwhile, what Israelis are paying attention to is Mahmoud Abbas meeting with former prisoners released in the Shalit deal, which is having a devastating impact on Israeli opinion. How do you explain this – why do this? </strong></p> <p>I think Abu Mazen, like Hamas – and not just Abu Mazen, a lot of Fatah’s leadership, the Fatah Executive and Central Committees – have been feeling also the pressure of national legitimacy. A lot of what they have done in the past year has been efforts to shore up their base, their national legitimacy, and their broad public appeal. And I think they came to the conclusion - seen most dramatically expressed in the UN bid – that the point of these exercises was domestic political support.&nbsp; I think you have seen this in a ratcheting up of rhetoric. There have been a number of efforts by Abu Mazen to reach out to the Israeli public particularly in the few weeks after his UN speech. He gave interviews to Israeli media where he was very forthcoming saying some remarkable things, including that the rejection of the Partition agreement (in 1947) was a mistake. Everyone knows that his own village –Safed – would have been in the Jewish state. So for him to say that in particular given that he was alive at the time – this is a big and important thing for him to say. But it didn’t have any effect. I think the Fatah leadership came to the conclusion that there is nothing they can really do or say that will make serious headway with this Israeli government.</p> <p>They’ve come to the conclusion they have nothing to work with. So while they don’t want the tax revenues to be withheld, which are 70-75 percent of their budget, and they don’t want a break in relations.&nbsp; I think they don’t mind doing things that are politically popular among the Palestinians, but maybe not particularly good for relations with the Israelis.&nbsp; It’s very significant though that Salaam Fayyad is still the prime minister and that this has been a major issue between Fatah and Hamas – Hamas being a group that cannot stand Salaam Fayyad – that security cooperation continues, that the state and institution building program on the ground continues. And, that nothing in the core deep structure of the status quo that has been built over the last couple of years by the Fayyad government of the PA has been dismantled or broken down. There have been hiccups like the finance minister withholding tax revenues, some of the US aid being withheld because of a procedural hold put in place by House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairwoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and some other things. But these are hiccups. The deep structural cooperation is still there. But at the political level there’s a sense that the Arab Spring has put huge pressure both because of regional changes and the reactions of the Palestinian public on both of these groups to move quickly to deal with what is a crisis of legitimacy for Fatah, and not only a crisis of legitimacy for Hamas, but also a crisis of identity, of branding and of who they are.</p> <p>It is a much deeper crisis for Hamas which is why I think you see a great deal of movement on their side in terms of how they’re appearing to adjust themselves or preparing people for potentially big adjustments.&nbsp; But again, I think they will try to keep it to a minimum because how they maintain their political strength after that becomes s hard to imagine.</p> <p>If they did do that. They would be pitting all their hopes on the notion that Muslim Brotherhood parties would come to power not only in Egypt but in many Arab states, and the Arab world would at least be 30-50 percent Muslim Brotherhood ruled, not just sharing power but really ruled by Muslim Brotherhood parties. Then they could present themselves as part of that world, and that could be another kind of brand.</p> <p>But that doesn’t look like it’s happening, frankly.&nbsp; I don’t agree with those people who think the Islamists are taking over everywhere.&nbsp; It doesn’t look that way at all. I think if that’s what they are betting on they are making a losing bet.&nbsp; Sure, Islamists parties are going to do well in any early elections, but in Egypt the presidency is still in the armed forces, the Islamists have a big chunk of a body that has very little authority. In Tunisia, they did well but are in a coalition with a bunch of secular organizations.</p> <p>This hope that the Muslim Brotherhood will simply sweep into uncontested leadership in the Arab world is I think a very, very far fetched one. So Hamas will have to be very careful about placing all of their bets on that.&nbsp; Though it is significant that Hamas did do something that is has never done before which is join the umbrella ‘international Muslim Brotherhood-parties’ group. Everyone knows they are an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood in Palestine but they never joined the international Brotherhood movement, and they did do so in the past few weeks.&nbsp; And that’s significant and it’s all part of a movement to re-brand. But I think it’s a very delicate operation for them filled with risks.&nbsp; I don’t think they quite know how they are going to handle it, which is why so much of this might prove to be cosmetic and for public consumption.&nbsp; I will remind you it’s been about a year since Hamas and Fatah were supposed to form a unity government, release each other’s political prisoners – which they haven’t been able to do, find a new prime minister – which they haven’t done, have new elections, which they re talking about but haven’t done. They have formed in any number of committees doing different things but not one item has happened, not even the release of political prisoners, let alone the removal of Fayyad or elections or anything.</p> <p><strong>If Hamas doesn’t break with its past, Palestinians will lose funding—even from some Europeans. How would they deal with that?</strong></p> <p>Obviously, it would be highly ill-advised to say the least for the PA to enter into an agreement with Hamas that would result in a loss of all US aid and a lot of international aid from Europe and expect aid form Arab states and Turkey will cover that. And, to deal with a crisis in relations with the US that would result in something more than money. The EU combined is the biggest donor to the Palestinians but the US is the single largest donor. If you also exclude tax revenues from Israel, you are talking about a potential complete economic breakdown and it is hard to see if that could be sustained.</p> <p>It’s hard to see how the PA would deal with that and survive. You can only not pay your security officials and others for so many weeks before they stop showing up to work—it’s as simple as that.</p> <p>But in addition to that there is a reality that the United States is the only real, viable broker for a peace agreement, and in the end the Palestinians cannot get what they need – an independent state and an end to the occupation – without an agreement with Israel.<strong> I</strong> don’t think anybody doubts that at a certain level a third party is needed.&nbsp; Sometimes third parties can complicate things, but at a minimum, you need the US for bridging proposals, for guarantees, and to create a mechanism to hold the parties to account for actually doing what they have promised they would do, something that is desperately needed now. And, to reassure the Israelis, because the United States is the only country that Israel trusts. Now there are a lot of people who say that the United States is not an appropriate third party, although we need a third party. What they need to understand is there is no alternative. It is not as if the United States is hoarding this selfishly or beating back lots of competitors. I can only think of France as any other country of any note at all that has expressed an interest in doing this. And France alone cannot do it.&nbsp; The EU isn’t interested. The UN as a multilateral organization isn’t interested in it.&nbsp; Nobody else. Its not isn’t a question of the US being indispensably positioned to do it, it’s also the question that there isn’t a rival for doing it. The Palestinians cannot in their long-term interests afford a huge and extended breakdown or crisis with the United States. But ultimately they need cooperation with the United States, not just financially and technically, but ultimately politically if they are to get what they need. No matter how frustrated they are this is a very fundamental reality.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Rob Danin on the Role of the Quartet</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob DaninSenior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations Former Head of the Office of Quartet Representative and worked closely with Tony Blair in JerusalemHere are some key excerpts from the phone conference to listen to the full call click here.   ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Rob Danin</strong><br>Senior Fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations<br> Former Head of the Office of Quartet Representative and worked closely with Tony Blair in Jerusalem<br><br>Here are some key excerpts from the phone conference to listen to the full call click <a href="http://www.israelpolicyforum.org/interview/talk-rob-danin-shalit-quartet-regional-environment">here</a>. <br> <br> <strong>The Quartet</strong><br> <br> The Quartet had met Washington in the summer and had failed to come up with a statement. They were trying to produce a statement that was a little more ambitious, not just a boilerplate statement of the usual sort of things, but try to provide a bath way forward. [This was] an effort to give something to both sides so that they could claim victory and move into negotiations.<br> <br> To get the parties into the negotiations the Palestinians would the 1967-armistace line (the green lined) affirmed as the basis for negotiations . . . and Israel would get very robust assurances that its security needs would be addressed in a final status issue. President Obama called in the two sides to start with borders and move forward. [However], the Quartet was unable to embrace the Obama Plan. The State Department announced that a meeting would be held in Jerusalem on Wednesday, October 26<sup>th</sup> with the Quartet. Tony Blair will be there and they will meet on getting the negotiations back on track.<br> <br>I have never seen the Quartet more actively engaged since it started in 2002, The United States, Russia, the United Nations and the European Union and I think one thing that has made it possible is the enhanced role of the Quartet [on the other hand] the White House has been too active. This has created an opportunity for the international community to play a larger role. The task ahead is quite difficult, having to do with Palestinian politics, Israeli politics and Global politics. The Quartet is actively involved and will be meeting. The release of Gilad Shalit opens up so very interesting opportunities, when it comes to Gaza.<br> <br> <strong>Israel as a Jewish State</strong><br> <br> Question: A lot of people were disappointed when the Quartet was not able to come to some agreement [this past summer]. Why couldn’t they agree?<br> <br> Answer: Two core issues, one was the notion of the 1967 and its role negotiations and the second had to do with the characterization of Israel as a Jewish state. These were two issues that were very problematic. The inability to embrace a formula on those two elements had been articulated by President Obama in May and had thwarted the Quartet from agreeing on a statement.<br> <br>In September they did over come that, but did not agree on the issue of the Jewish state. United Nations Resolution 181, which had called for the partition of Palestine into two separate states, one Jewish, one Arab in November 29<sup>th</sup> 1947, it laid the basis for Israel’s creation 27 times. The Arab world has refused to call ‘Israel,’ Israel and has called it the Jews or the Jewish state. Now we have come 180 degrees and now the Palestinian’s are struggling to referring Israel as a Jewish state and prefer to call it Israel.<br> <br>Within the international context there are some now within Europe and Russia in particular who have a very hard time with ‘A Jewish State.’ It is very poorly understood by the international community, Israel has not helped to define it very well either. Who is a Jew, which makes the definition of Jewish state become ambiguous. Within the Quartet, you have not divisions, but reflections of different views within the Quartet, part of the role of the Quartet is to come to a unified view. Ultimately it was these issues that became so problematic.<br> <br> The Palestinian demand of having the 1967 line as a basis for negotiations was met by the Quartet. The Palestinian’s missed an opportunity to declare victory, the two issues became linked, you could only have the 1967 line with Jewish state and since Jewish state become so radioactive it was all taken out in order to create the pathway to negotiations with a reference to the Obama language that does have Jewish and does have 67 lines and has all of these issues addressed. Getting the parties back on the path of dialogue is important.<br> <br> <strong>The United States as a Moderator</strong><br> <br> Palestinian politics have shifted a great deal largely due to two basic reasons, the Palestinian analysis of the institutional framework and right now the Palestinians are disenchanted with the United States, they feel they will pay a price politically by entering into negotiations. Palestinian’s are very focused on timelines, which is why the Quartet inserted them. Israel is concerned that the Palestinian’s want to pre-negotiate all the outcomes of the negotiations. The Palestinian’s believe they will lose credibility by entering into negotiations.<br> <br>The Arab spring has unsettled many of the Palestinian leaders including Mahmoud Abbas who was very close to Hosni Mubarak. The Palestinian people want unity and the Palestinian leadership on Fatah and the Hamas side want to be seen to be trying to reach unity, but nobody wants to pay the real price. For Hamas the price is giving up sole control over Gaza and for Fatah it means letting Hams into the West Bank. Both of those a priced too high for both sides. In the period ahead we are going to see more efforts at Palestinian unity, but I don’t think they are going to lead to very much.”<br> <br> <strong>Gilad Shalit </strong><br> <br> Question: Where does Gilad Shalit fit into the context of the Quartet activities?<br> <br> Answer: I think Hamas and Israel are gearing themselves up for the next round. Hamas has issued orders to capture more soldiers. Hamas is feeling more embolden and strengthened this pulls Abbas away from Israel and towards a tougher position. Palestinian request for statehood is still in the Security Council and will come out of the Security Council at some point and the Palestinian authority is going to be more hardnosed about this and will likely take it to the general assembly. Palestinian will have enough votes to become a non-state member of the General Assembly.<br> <br> Note: This phone conference took place on October 18, 2011.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>&quot;Securocrats&quot; and the Two State Solution</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his column at the Forward titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the str...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In his <a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/" >column at the Forward</a> titled "A Palestinian State Even Securocrats Can Accept," JJ Goldberg writes about IPF's symposium Monday night in New York, and specifically former Mossad Director Efraim Halevy's message, which he describes as "If the strategic map of the Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade":</p><blockquote><p>I don’t think I’d be going out on a limb to suggest that Israel is  having a bit of a rough patch lately, what with its Cairo embassy in  ruins, terrorism flaring in the south and new troubles brewing at the  United Nations. I could drone on about the dangers, but I don’t need to.  I happen to have a handy list, itemized the other day at the Harvard  Club by former National Security Council anti-terrorism chief Richard  Clarke.</p><p>In Clarke’s view, Israel faces seven main threats right  now: the rupture with Islamist-led Turkey; chaos in Egypt; the  “Hezbollah government” in Lebanon; extreme instability in Libya; the  looming declaration of Palestinian statehood at the United Nations; the  “ascent” of soon-to-be-nuclear Iran, and “the diminution of American  power and influence.”</p><p>Clarke was addressing a day-long symposium on Israeli  security sponsored by the liberal-leaning Israel Policy Forum. By the  time he was done, everyone in the room — a collection of dark-suited  business types, American and Israeli military and intelligence officials  and assorted wonks — seemed ready to run home and crawl under their  beds for a year.</p><p>The gloom was promptly lifted, however, by a positively  chipper presentation from the next and final speaker: Efraim Halevy,  former director of Israel’s Mossad intelligence service, a man not  usually known for spreading sunshine.</p><p>Halevy’s basic message: If the strategic map of the  Middle East looks like a lemon, make lemonade. Or, as he put it: “In a  situation where the most probable outcome is the least desirable and the  most desirable is the least probable, you go halfway. Sometimes a half a  cup of coffee is better than a full cup of coffee” — that is, when a  full cup isn’t available.</p><p>There are several layers of meaning to this little maxim.  At the most overt level, he was talking about the possibility of  Israeli-Palestinian peace. For Israel today, he said, “the best possible  solution is a complete peace between Israel and Palestine. But I think  it’s the least probable.” The most probable solution, he said, is “no  solution — more of the same,” muddling along toward “either a one-state  solution, with all that entails, or chaos.” That’s the “least  desirable,” but “the most probable.”</p><p>So what’s he offering in his half-cup of coffee? He  didn’t spell it out at the Harvard Club, but he’s done so in Israel  several times recently. He believes Israel should offer to recognize a  Palestinian state within provisional borders, and then enter  state-to-state negotiations over the issues in dispute: borders, water  rights, demilitarization, refugees, Jerusalem.</p></blockquote> <div style="overflow: hidden; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; text-align: left; text-decoration: none; border: medium none;"><a href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh" >Click here to read the entire column</a><br><a style="color: rgb(0, 51, 153);" href="http://www.forward.com/articles/142822/#ixzz1Y2soyIeh"></a></div>]]></content:encoded>
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